Tuesday, May 20, 2025

Les Elgart's 1946-48 Singles

Les Elgart
To go with a new post on the main blog that features the Les Elgart band's singles from 1954, here we take a look at the first Elgart recordings, which date from 1946 and 1948.

The set includes six tunes in all, which I believe may have been the band's total commercial recordings before it temporarily disbanded in 1949. It would rise again to great popular acclaim in the 1950s.

While not revelatory, these numbers from the 40s are enjoyable - more for the band than the vocalists.

The first coupling is from Musicraft, which had made a big venture into pop music after the war. What appears to be the sole disc on that label is a combination of "Mabel Mabel" and "Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen."

"Mabel Mabel" turns out to be Dvořák's Humoresque No. 7, even though it is here ascribed to Ervin Drake, Jimmy Shirl and Henry Manners. It must have taken all three of them to come up with "Mabel, Mabel, sweet and able / Take your elbows off the table / Get out of here and get yourself a guy!" The opening of the band bellowing "Hey, Mabel!" seems to be a precursor of the famous "Hey, Mabel" slogan for Carling's Beer.

The flip side is an instrumental of "Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen," in which arranger Bill Finegan does show off some of his Miller moves. Finegan is credited on the labels for both this and the "Mabel Mabel" arrangement. (Musicraft threw an extra "n" into Bill's last name at no charge.)

In 1948, Les and ensemble made four sides for the small Bullet label, all with vocal group choruses, two by the Uptowners, two by the Bobsters (for both, think the Pied Pipers, but not as smooth).

The first number is "Doodle Doo Doo," previously heard on my other site in a version by Tammy Grimes. This 1924 novelty by Art Kassel and Mel Stitzel was backed by "I Lost My Heart in Hartford" by Trace and Pines. ("Trace" is presumably bandleader-novelty composer Al Trace.) The band and vocal group are both more sluggish than desirable.

The second Bullet single led off with "I Went Down to Virginia," also recorded by a certain Frank Sinatra. It's a song by Redd Evans and Dave Mann that I've always liked. The arrangement shows some signs that it was done by Bill Finegan, but even so the record is no match for Sinatra and Axel Stordahl. The band's other arrangers were reportedly Nelson Riddle and Ralph Flanagan.

"Virginia" was backed by a charming oldie, "What Do You Want to Make Those Eyes at Me For?", written by Jimmy Monaco, Howard Johnson and Joseph McCarthy back in 1916 and revived by Betty Hutton in 1945. A good idea, but the Bobsters are lacking.

These singles all have reasonably good sound.

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15 comments:

gimpiero said...

Great

RonH said...

Thanks so much.

Ernie said...

Thanks for more Les!

Buster said...

Thanks, everyone!

Anonymous said...

Dave from Ardmore didn't know there were pre-1950's Elgart sides. What a musical archeologist you are!

Buster said...

Dave - This is all dumb luck. I noticed that Les had recorded some 40s singles for small labels, looked on the sadly depleted IA, and there they were!

musicman1979 said...

Follow-up information: both "Mabel Mabel" and "Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen" appeared on LP on the (not surprisingly) Brand "X" budget label Design Records (a subsidiary of Pickwick) as the lead off selections on Side 2 on the Design Records LP "The Big Bands Swing", which also includes the Ray McKinley Musicraft sides "Red Silk Stockings" and "Civilization."

musicman1979 said...

Also "Nobody Knows" also appeared on the Design Records compilation "Remember When? The Best of Big Bands". There isn't much of the typical Elgart sound that would make him famous the following decade here: most of the Big Band sound featured here is typical of what was coming out in the mid-to-late-'40's. The Pied Pipers comparison is spot-on for these vocal cuts: "Doodle Doo Doo" and "I Lost My Heart in Hartford" are excellent.

musicman1979 said...

Also "Nobody Knows" also appeared on the Design Records compilation "Remember When? The Best of Big Bands". There isn't much of the typical Elgart sound that would make him famous the following decade here: most of the Big Band sound featured here is typical of what was coming out in the mid-to-late-'40's. The Pied Pipers comparison is spot-on for these vocal cuts: "Doodle Doo Doo" and "I Lost My Heart in Hartford" are excellent.

musicman1979 said...

you probably know that Bullet's two big Pop singles came out a year before you were born, in 1948, with Nashville bandleader Francis Craig, with "Near You" and "Beg Your Pardon", both with vocals by Bob Lamm. Randy Wood somehow purchased the master's and re-issued them frequently on his own Dot label.

musicman1979 said...

You can certainly hear Bill Finegan's influence on "I Went Down To Virginia". To my ears, it certainly has that Glenn Miller sound, however, it is more in the style of Ralph Flangan's Miller-inspired records than Glenn Miller himself. All of these selections are classic 1940's Big Band sound, with "What Do You Want to Make Those Eyes At Me For?" sounding the most like Elgart's '50's band in places, but not throughout the entire song.

Buster said...

musicman - Yeah, those old Musicraft sides got around.

Buster said...

musicman - "Near You" made the label.

Buster said...

musicman - It could have been Ralph Flanagan's arrangement.

musicman1979 said...

Yes it did. Totally agree!